Elisa Donovan
👤 SpeakerAppearances Over Time
Podcast Appearances
It's just his words that they have to exist by.
So it's very much control-based.
It's very much power-based.
We see this a lot in cult dynamics, you know, and it begs the question, you know, he thinks he's a prophet,
When you're at that extreme, yes, when you are that grandiose, yeah, people will believe that.
They will believe that story.
Now, how much of his own preachings does he believe?
Who knows?
It may not necessarily matter.
What matters is that he has isolated them so much, scared them so much that their ability to leave, it's like they don't even, it's not even an option.
It becomes something they don't even think about or consider.
Right.
It's not actually a part of reality.
Right.
So do people in those situations like Elizabeth, they start to adapt in ways that outsiders, people like you and I, we might not understand.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
And that's why it's so confusing for people who leave these relationships, whether it's an abusive, intimate relationship, a family member, whatever the case may be.
It is so difficult for other people to say, like, why wouldn't you just leave?