Elisa Donovan

So in Gaslit by My Husband, the Morgan Metzer story, which I know you're familiar with, and I spoke with Jenna, and I know you've spoken with Jenna as well, who I couldn't be a bigger fan of her as a human being and as an actress.

But what really stood out to me was how slowly the manipulation builds over time.

So at what point does something like that cross into emotional abuse?

And I know it might be hard to

No, I love this.

I love this question.

I love this question because it's a very it's a big misconception that a lot of people have.

So I will say this in regards to the to the movie.

I'm very picky with this.

I watch a ton of documentaries and movies about all this stuff.

This was one of the most well done movies that got it right.

And there's few.

And this they nailed it.

And so and for one of the reasons is exactly what you said, that it's

It's this subtle, like long coming into, you know, coming to be, right?

And the reason for that is because it's exactly how it works.

That's why when people come to me, they're like, I can't believe I didn't see this.

I'm like, there was literally no way for you to see this.

And before you even know what's going on, you're too sucked in.

So it is deliberate that it starts like this.