Eliza Orlins

You know, I have a lot of things that for me, I have already decided that this is a thing that I'm going to do.

But for some folks...

you know, the fear will prevent them from reporting crimes if they are the victim of crimes.

It will prevent them from seeking medical care or, you know, health care if they are sick or need help.

It will prevent them from accessing education.

You know, we've already seen people too afraid to go to school and there being big absences.

So it chills communities in that way.

But then also, I think, you know, the...

the way that this enables the administration to like come after people and prosecute them.

And, and like, let's say, you know, this flag burning thing, of course it's still legal to burn a flag, but his order is written in such a way that it's like, okay, but even if it's legal to burn a flag, the way that they arrested the veteran who burned the flag in Lafayette park was by saying, having an open flame in a city park is,

And then they're going to say, oh, no, it was disorderly conduct.

It was obstruction of governmental administration.

You know, the amount of times I've in my career seen cops charge someone with with OGA, we call it obstruction of governmental administration.

It's like, you know, when you don't have a crime to charge someone with, you charge them with OGA disorderly conduct and then resisting arrest because they're like, what am I being arrested for?

And then they're resisting.

So it's like this fits into a broader authoritarian infrastructure.

You know, listen, I think that protecting yourself and your neighbors means, you know, just if you do bring your phone because you decide you want to, listen, I'll have my phone with me, but don't post pictures of other people's faces because, you know, you don't want to endanger anyone else.

I would say...

Be aware that they want to do anything they can to undermine these protests, and they want to paint us as violent rioters, radicals, the radical—capital R, capital L—radical left.

And so—