Eliza Orlins

And it looks as though the conservative justices are going to gut the rest of the Voting Rights Act.

I mean, it is just...

I mean, it's fucking devastating, but it's what's happening right now.

So even if laws are on the books that we think protect us, protect our civil rights, protect our, you know, civil liberties, we are devolving into extreme authoritarianism.

And so laws...

don't matter as much as they used to.

You know, I love that you cited the three and a half percent, like Dr. Erica Chenoweth's research really gives me a lot of hope.

And I think that, you know, knowing that since, what does she say, since the night, like 1900 or since

that any time 3.5% of the population has engaged in sustained nonviolent resistance, they've never failed to defeat authoritarianism.

So that is what I'm hoping for, and that's why I hope we see, you know, at least 10 million people out there on Saturday.

I guess in theory...

Who's the aggrieved party?

It would, I guess, be... Would it be the cities?

I guess.

But I don't... I don't know enough.

Honestly, I would have to, like, look up, like, what that would...

what that would entail in terms of how... I mean, obviously, the act, I know, limits the federal government's ability to militarize domestic law enforcement, but I think how it would be used or how it could be brought in court is something that is...

Not 100% clear to me.

So listen, what I always tell folks, and I think this is good advice across the board forever and ever, is don't talk to the cops.

The law enforcement is not there to help you.