Elizabeth Berger

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That Was Us · Isaac Aptaker & Elizabeth Berger and Us | Showrunners of This Is Us · 18 Feb 2025 podcast

and Beth getting accidentally pregnant. And I was infuriated. I think it was because I was pregnant at the time, expecting my second. And the idea of like- You can't do this to me, Dan. I mean, Beth. Something about it where I was like, that's not what Beth wants. And he was like really trying to. And it was one of those days where we just went back and forth.

Yes. And then we were Dan and I were, of course, texting offlining about like that. We respect each other's opinions. I mean, it didn't happen much, but it got heated. It got heated. And then that was one that, you know, didn't end up happening. And then one where Dan was right was that I was heated about was like not.

being sure if we should do our Alzheimer's storyline and like just being like, and that was another one that the writers, like we discussed endlessly. And I was like, it's too sad. And our audience has been through enough. And I don't know, I think that it might be too much. And he was right. You know, he said, it's going to connect with so many people. We're going to handle it beautifully.

Mandy's going to be extraordinary and it's going to be so meaningful. You were right too. It was so sad. It was so sad.

Yeah, that was one. And again, some of these you know about early, but you're still, as you approach it, you're like, are we really going to go this way?

What Chris is saying, it's like you can, we wanted to show that it can get really sad and unexpected and it can still be okay. And that is such a reality for so many people that you fall in love and you get married and you think it's gonna work and you can't imagine it's not gonna work and it doesn't work and it's devastating and then life goes on.

But yeah, that was one that was sort of part of the fabric pretty early.

It wasn't easy. I mean, we definitely, like, everyone... loved the show, but we also just kept coming back to, oh, but it feels right. And it really feels like we've told the story now so completely.

I kind of believe that you both. A few gray hairs.

I think Sterling, you nailed it, which was Nikki and that relationship and Vietnam as an engine for season three. We were like, that was huge for us. We were like, wow, we have now another season of the show that is going to feel completely different and it's going to sort of fuel the entire season.

And then it did get harder because we had those flash forwards, but it was a little smaller after that. It was a little bit more intimate in terms of most of the week to week stories and they became a little bit, more grounded without that element to it. And that was challenging.

So I think then it was sort of about, okay, like we don't have that kind of big thing sort of fueling these last couple of seasons.

I think, what's the one we opened, season four?

Yes, where we sort of follow new people for a premiere. A whole episode where the entire audience is like, who is this? Why is this? That was a lot of conversation. That was one where we were all just, and even Dan, like we would just be like, I don't know. Like, let's see what happens.

Where's Randall?

Yes. A lot of conversation. But Mandy, I think to your point, like people trusted us by then and we had earned so much goodwill, I think, and trust that they were able to go for the ride. Like we might've gotten a few angry tweets of where are the people that I love and that I tuned in to see.

But overall, like people went with it and they, what also was so cool was how they learned the language of our show and the timelines. Like at first it was like, will it be confusing to be in two different timelines? And then it was like, we can do, eight timelines. And people like really went with it.

And they somehow like sort of expanded sort of their minds in terms of what they could follow in terms of all these different ways that we would jump around.

That was the hardest thing we've ever done. With her.

In terms of a Dan date that I just learned this term, where he was like, and then they're going to meet in the middle. And we were like, don't know what that means, but we're going to go write it. Sounds great, boss.

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