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Elizabeth Jo

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99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Well, in 2022, the Supreme Court decided to unrecognize the constitutionally protected right to an abortion in Dobbs versus Jackson Women's Health Organization.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And that case overturned the right that was first recognized in Roe in 1973.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And even though abortion might seem to be pretty distinct from marriage, and of course it is a different topic,

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

it was not a different topic for Justice Thomas.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Justice Thomas joined the majority opinion in the Dobbs case, but he also wrote a separate opinion because he had more to say.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And essentially his more to say was, look, if we're overturning the right to an abortion, which I think is a good idea, that's his thinking, we might also reconsider some rights based on the same interpretation that the court issues today.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And he calls out specifically Obergefell versus Hodges.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Like, maybe we should think about overturning that case.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

So his opinion set off alarms, as you can imagine.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And so the idea here is, look, if Justice Thomas can just convince four other justices that he's right, then presumably that right might be in question.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Well, in 2022, this was the Biden administration.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

President Biden signed the Respect for Marriage Act, or RFMA.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

So RFMA formally repeals the Defense of Marriage Act from 1996, right?

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

But it also goes further.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

One section of RFMA, this is the federal law, requires all states to give what the law calls full faith and credit to marriages, including same-sex marriages, which it identifies specifically, if they are lawfully performed within a state.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

So RFMA doesn't require a state to license same-sex marriages.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

In other words, it doesn't require a state that hadn't done that before to do it.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

But as long as there is one state in the United States that does license same-sex marriages, the effect of RFMA, this federal law, means that those marriages should be respected in the other 49.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

And remember, marriage as a legal idea is really important.

99% Invisible
Constitution Breakdown #7: California AG Rob Bonta

Of course, it's important symbolically, but it carries all kinds of effects of,