Elizabeth Jo

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2,299 appearances 6 recordings 1 series first heard Jun 2025 last heard 27 Mar

Elizabeth Jo’s voice in public audio — every appearance, attributed to the second.

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So let's step back for a moment and think about what this means.
Trump is saying, I've used military force against these boats, at least some of which actually appear to be fishing boats.
But what is this use of military force?
Well, you know, if you look at the letter to Congress, the Trump administration says that it is acting under the nation's right to self-defense.
But if this is in some sense a war, let's go with that idea for a moment.
how are the people in these boats combatants in armed conflict with the United States, right?
Yeah.
Even if we assume that there are people in these boats who are bringing illegal drugs into the United States, and remember, the administration hasn't offered any evidence supporting this yet.
then the usual manner of dealing with drug runners would be as a matter of law enforcement, not war making.
So presumably you'd have something like the Coast Guard who would stop the boats and arrest the crew and bring them in for criminal prosecution.
But these weren't prosecutions.
They simply blew up the boats.
These were executions without any process at all.
And so if you bring illegal drugs into the United States, that's certainly a crime, but is it really an attack on the United States?
That's not really the way we think about armed conflict.
And there's no sense that the TDA is engaged in any sustained or organized campaign against the United States as a sovereign nation, right?
And a basic principle of armed conflict means that you distinguish between combatants and civilians.
So even if we assume that these are drug runners, that they are in fact bringing illegal drugs into the United States, they're still civilians.
They're not wearing uniforms.
They're not trying to pretend to be soldiers in any sense.
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