Elizabeth Phillips

So Rick is, he has no qualifications in child protection or anything, and he's supposed to, you know, sharpen up the protocols for these bad actors.

They are keeping on staff and not just that.

Pete Newman got promoted after that.

So not only did they not report him to the authorities properly or fire him, they promoted him to director of K-Country.

He was assistant director, then director of K-Country,

Will Cunningham, who was his supervisor, recommended his termination, and then he got squeezed out slowly and left Kanakuk.

He's been very helpful to survivors in their cases now because he's like, I told them to fire the guy.

Red flags all over the place.

More than red flags that Joe White knew about.

So, um... Then there's this... There are a few theories around how he ended up turning himself in in March 2009, but one thing I've heard, and I know this guy in Dallas, I've heard the story directly from him, his dad was a sitting U.S.

congressman, and he had sponsored a kid to go with Pete to some retreat in Alabama.

And the kid called back, said he tried to assault me.

So, that guy calls, uh, Pete, and he says, I'm gonna have the FBI on your doorstep tomorrow morning.

Uh, say goodbye to your wife, Katie, and your kid.

They had a daughter.

My family threw their baby shower in Dallas.

So, um, the person I'm... Your family threw his baby shower?

Yeah.

And it was considered an honor.

Mm-hmm.