Elizabeth Phillips

And Cross International was also called Cross Catholic Outreach.

So there's a Catholic side to it, and then the evangelical side.

Guy named Jim Kavanagh was doing Cross Catholic Outreach.

Joe White and him partnered up.

So it's like, you know, Kavanagh does the Catholic side, he does the non-denominational side of fundraising.

Cross International is 1.3 billion in general contributions.

It's the 39th largest nonprofit in the US.

No one's ever heard of it.

Like, I've been in philanthropy for 12 years.

I've never heard of Cross International.

And then, like, 1.2 billion of their annual contributions are in-kind donations and medical supplies.

But then when you talk to people who have flown to Haiti with Joe White or gone on these CannaCut Haiti trips, and I've obviously talked to a lot of them at this point, they're like, we were handing out Ziploc bags with, like, candy and toothbrushes.

I'm like, that's not $1.3 million worth of medical supplies.

They're like, no.

Are there even medical supplies?

I don't even know if they exist.

I mean, so now the claim is that they are the primary source of funding for over 6,000 kids in Haiti who would starve to death if not for Joe White.

And they go on these mission trips.

And Cross International, they would give some of this money I was mentioning to Cross International as a pass-through.

But then some of it, like to the tune of 6 million, just directly wired to Haiti.