Elizabeth Phillips

Oh, man.

Reading scripture over them and praying over them as the abuse is happening.

It shattered my faith.

I've talked to so many survivors now.

So Trey was scared to talk.

because of the NDA.

And he told a therapist in Dallas, she's in the same building as the guy who wrote the book CIA Doctors.

Colin Ross, I think is his name.

Um, I read that, but I started educating myself on, like, the MKUltra stuff's declassified.

Like, I just totally thought Trey was being, like, psychotic or something.

And I was like, oh, I did my own research.

I was like, this stuff's for real.

And I met doctors that, like, treat these patients and Trey's symptoms lined up with all that.

And I'm like, oh, my gosh.

And then, um...

four days, I think it was four days, like very close to his death, he reached out to that therapist and said, they'll always control me and I'll never be free.

And then he killed himself.

When I started going around to meet with his therapists, and hear, like, all the same things over and over and over again.

Of just, like, victims they've treated and how it's hard to, at that point, like, and then there was also, like, drugs and addiction involved in Trace Story.

Like, it's just so hard to come back from that.