Elizabeth Phillips

So, like, that's why it's so important when an institution has a case of child sexual abuse that they have an independent investigation into that organization.

Not a law firm to cover, you know, them, but to have an independent investigation that looks into the scope and scale of the abuse that's occurred.

Because it's... I've never seen a case where it's just one perpetrator or just one victim.

Like, they're usually tied into a net, especially with, like, the online stuff, so intersectional with this institutional abuse, right?

Because they desensitize their victims by using... porn a lot of the time, or, um, in the case of Kanakuk and some of these other, like, Assemblies of God and, um...

Certainly Catholic church abuse, SBC stuff, they use an element of spirituality to it.

Like, Pete Newman would tell boys that if they masturbated with him in a hot tub, they were still sexually pure, because they weren't doing it with a woman.

And that ties back again to Joe White's books about teen purity.

So, like, from the top, you have this dude who's obsessed with teen sex and purity.

And then his own words and philosophy and theology are twisted by these pedophiles that come to work at Kanakuk.

And then they get caught abusing kids.

And Joey White's like, oh, it's just boys being boys.

I thought it was immature.

I didn't think it was criminal.

And he says things like this in the deposition tapes we have.

And he was like, they're, you know, just... Do you have them saying that?

Oh, yeah.

We have hours and hours of deposition videos.

Yeah, let's put them up.

Please.