Elizabeth Smart

you would get in there again.

Can you talk a little bit about how he really controlled you?

Because I don't think it was necessarily physical.

I think it was so much of it was mental.

And, you know, one of the pieces that I got from the A&E documentary that you did that I don't think I really had a grasp on was how he was really like your provider.

Like you needed him to get water, to like just live day to day and...

So can you just talk about that, about the methods that he used to control you?

Absolutely.

And I just want to just say that, I mean, these methods, they are not unique to me.

I mean, you see it across so many victims, whether it's victims of domestic violence or rape or kidnapping or human trafficking.

I mean, you see these methods of control and manipulation and isolation and...

I want to say substance withholding, but that makes it sound like drugs.

No, but I understand.

Food and water.

But withholding necessities almost.

Necessities, yeah.

So, I mean, it's very, like it's pretty common.

And actually, there's another word I would like to talk about, which applies to this situation as well, which is called grooming, which...

It's funny, I found that if people haven't personally experienced it, there are actually a lot of people who find it very hard.

Not that they don't believe it's possible, they just have a hard time wrapping their mind around the concept.