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Elizabeth Smart

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2134 total appearances

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Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

to be so close.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

Again, it's almost like the helicopters and calling your name so close yet so far.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

I mean, you're...

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

It was like, once again, a tornado of emotion because like part of me, it did seem like I was so close to being rescued.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

But by that point, I mean, I had been told so many times how they would kill me.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

They'd kill my family.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

And up until that point, they had really seemed invincible.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

I mean, every time they threatened me with something, they always followed through with it.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

Like there was no reason in my mind

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

why they would not follow through with what they had threatened me before.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

And so it was almost just like that fear and those threats felt paralyzing to me.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

And I remember Wanda Barzee, her hand just clamping down on my leg.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

as this homicide detective was questioning my, my captors.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

And it was just, it was just like that physical reminder was almost like being kidnapped all over again and reminded me what my captors were capable of and what they, what they would do, the lengths that they would go to, to make sure that I wasn't rescued, to make sure that I, um,

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

stayed in their control.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

And they were very, very, they were very good manipulators.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

I mean, like, so Wanda Barzee, she didn't, she didn't say anything because I had been told that I was not allowed to speak out in public.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

And so to make it seem like it was part of our religion, Brian Mitchell also told Wanda Barzee that she could not speak out in public.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

And of course, she supported that because ultimately he told her what she wanted to hear.

Crime Junkie
AUDIO EXTRA: A Conversation With Elizabeth Smart

And he told her how special she was.