Elizabeth Stone

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Lenny's Podcast: Product | Career | Growth · Why Netflix is betting on systems thinkers—not specialists—in the AI era | Elizabeth Stone (CPTO) · 19 Jul 2026 podcast

And I think I mentioned this earlier.

I find that mastery and that craft excellence scarce still.

So we want to make sure we're teaching that.

I think it's a valid concern of like, how do I get that if I'm not as hands-on as I would have had to be?

But you still carry a responsibility for learning.

Reviewing code, testing code, being able to diagnose problems, knowing what a good product looks like.

I think that's a very scarce skill to say, this is excellence in a product that solves a problem that matters and in how it's designed.

So I don't think that craft mastery, the importance of it is going away.

Probably the way we train and grow talent has to change because they're going to use different tools.

And I can guarantee you that earlier career talent

is going to be teaching older folks like me many new things too.

So I think it goes in both directions.

I think there's a difference between being able to write lines of code in a particular language like Python or C++ and understanding how code, computer systems, products work.

And I don't think the latter is going away because if we trusted agents to know all the languages and write all the code, we're not gonna know

Why is something, is it a good product?

Is it a bad product?

Is it working as we expected when it doesn't?

Like I mentioned earlier, we take a lot of risk.

We fail fast, we recover fast.

That requires an understanding of how are these systems working?

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