Ella Al-Shamahi

And the Daily Mail, in their review of the episode, and I cannot emphasize this enough, wrote one of the most amusing reviews because they spent most of that review just going, oh my God, what was it like to be on that mountain?

I might say the bunkest thing is, one of those species became locally extinct and disappeared.

And in the way that we've told the story of us and the Neanderthals, you would assume it was the Neanderthals.

Turns out it was us.

And you see this consistently.

And it's to the point that there are some who, when you look at the pattern of Homo sapien movement and what have you,

They're of the opinion that the reason why Homo sapiens appeared to have favoured going east instead of going north is because the Neanderthals for the longest time were a formidable force.

And yeah, it's a very respectable theory that, you know what, the dates are very interesting because we leave Africa, but we seem to favour the East, at least that's what the current evidence suggests.

And we're not in Europe as much.

We'll dally in, but...

the number of Homo sapiens settlements in Europe seems to be very small.

And the argument is, yeah, maybe the Neanderthals were a force to be reckoned with.

Yeah.

So the traditional telling is we go via the Sinai of Egypt,

And honestly, the way it used to be told is you'd hang around in the north of the Arabian Peninsula, which isn't really the Arabian Peninsula by that point, it's the Levant because you're looking at Syria, Israel, Lebanon, those areas, and Iraq.

But actually, increasingly, there's evidence to suggest that Arabia was green at various moments and that that whole area was used and was actually at times a refuge.

And in fact, there's some people that would argue it's not out of Africa, it's out of Arabia stroke the Middle East.

And of course, our ancestors and the Neanderthals had no sense of what a continent was.

Do you know what I mean?

They weren't like, well, that's the African continent and that's Asia.