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Well, we didn't.

We actually didn't.

Barely scratched the fucking surface.

He was also great in the 20 minutes, like straight to the point.

Obviously, he knew that we didn't have much time because he had to get to another meeting.

Wow, did my brain just go through like so many brain zaps and like aha moments and like fuck, this is actually the world that we live in.

This is a world that I'm also now raising a seven-month-old baby girl in and it is genuinely terrifying.

Like there's so much that we actually already know and we're aware of, but when you hear it from someone like Justin and it really sinks in, especially now being a mum,

Like, I'm genuinely terrified and it's raising my cortisol levels as I fucking speak and sit here.

And we just spoke about that too.

Obviously, like lately, I've been speaking a lot about trolling, cyberbullying, the effects on, you know, participants that I've had on the podcast.

Obviously, it kept coming up and people were going through PTSD and, you know, not being mentally prepared to be basically famous and seen at the petrol station and recognized and

There's been a lot of conversations of that on the pod.

And obviously, even for myself, like it's something that I still experience, not on a day to day, but regularly.

And it's still a bit like, whoa, this is, I guess it's not something you'll ever get used to.

But I basically wanted to get a psychologist on to really break down like the deeper psychological effects of being a troll, being the receiver of a troll, you know, as well, like raising kids in this world that we live in now.

All right, Justin, thank you so much as well, by the way.

Yeah, let's make it awesome.

So Justin, let's get straight into things.

Now we want to cover a few topics.