The Physiological Cost of Going Viral - Dr Justin Coulson explains

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Julie Inman Grant 0:03
Kyllä, se on lempeä kesä nyt, kun elämänmaku on kaikista makein. Mieli kuin nuorena tyttönä kaurapellolla, kun saa liihottaa. Nauti vaan ja ota väli pala välissä. Ai ai ai, niin se on. Eloveena. Täyttä eloa.
Ella May Ding 0:35
Wowee, okay. Today was an interesting one. We rocked up to do an interview with a guest, but unfortunately she had an emergency that she had to attend to, which obviously completely fair enough. So we got on the backfire and we were like, okay, who can we find who's going to be able to give us, you know, the education and the knowledge and the information that we really wanted for today's episode. So we made a phone call. My producer made a phone call and my God, did she pull through. So Justin Coulson, Dr. Justin Coulson is Australia's most trusted parenting expert. He has a PhD in psychology. He's an author of 10 plus books, co-host of Channel 9's Parental Guidance, the host of Australia's number one parenting podcast alongside his wife, Kylie.
Ella May Ding 1:22
Dad to six freaking daughters. Emphasizing that grandfather to one granddaughter, his new book on raising boys has dropped officially. And I think it was top three on Amazon, which is incredible. What made him perfect for today's episode? He sits at the intersection of psychology, parenting, and digital culture. He's not alarmist. He's evidence-based and nuanced. He'll push back on lazy takes, which makes great for listening. Now, I wish I had more time with the dude. We had literally 20 minutes and the clock was ticking very quickly. I was like, holy shit, how am I going to get through all these questions? Well, we didn't. We actually didn't. Barely scratched the fucking surface. He was also great in the 20 minutes, like straight to the point.
Ella May Ding 2:07
Obviously, he knew that we didn't have much time because he had to get to another meeting. Wow, did my brain just go through like so many brain zaps and like aha moments and like fuck, this is actually the world that we live in. This is a world that I'm also now raising a seven-month-old baby girl in and it is genuinely terrifying. Like there's so much that we actually already know and we're aware of, but when you hear it from someone like Justin and it really sinks in, especially now being a mum, Like, I'm genuinely terrified and it's raising my cortisol levels as I fucking speak and sit here. And we just spoke about that too. Obviously, like lately, I've been speaking a lot about trolling, cyberbullying, the effects on, you know, participants that I've had on the podcast.
Ella May Ding 2:51
Obviously, it kept coming up and people were going through PTSD and, you know, not being mentally prepared to be basically famous and seen at the petrol station and recognized and There's been a lot of conversations of that on the pod. And obviously, even for myself, like it's something that I still experience, not on a day to day, but regularly. And it's still a bit like, whoa, this is, I guess it's not something you'll ever get used to. But I basically wanted to get a psychologist on to really break down like the deeper psychological effects of being a troll, being the receiver of a troll, you know, as well, like raising kids in this world that we live in now. All right, Justin, thank you so much as well, by the way.
Dr. Justin Coulson 3:35
Yeah, stoke pumped. Let's make it awesome.
Ella May Ding 3:37
Yeah, let's make it awesome. So Justin, let's get straight into things. Now we want to cover a few topics. We'll start off with the psychology of trolls, I think. So from a psychological perspective, I want to know what happens to a person's nervous system when they're living completely anonymously into an intense public scrutiny overnight.
Dr. Justin Coulson 4:01
This is just an anxiety overload, basically. So you've been there, right?
Ella May Ding 4:04
Yeah.
Dr. Justin Coulson 4:05
You're a normal person and suddenly everyone knows you and they're talking about you and they have opinions about you. And so you're going to fight or flight. What's really going on neurologically is this. When input comes into our brain and our body from the environment, our brain processes from the bottom to the top and from the back to the front.

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