Ella Mills

Yes.

Or not in a smoothie.

Anyway, roasted grapes, you know, you put them in your oatmeal.

Roasted grapes are so nice.

Mediterranean.

I love it.

Okay.

I'm very excited to try those.

We also have a recommendation for you, Rhi, from Julia, one of our listeners.

She said, Rhi, your ongoing love for bees and the documentary that you mentioned made me think you'd absolutely love The History of Bees by Marja Lunde.

It's a beautiful work of fiction that weaves together three storylines across different time periods, all connected through bees and what their disappearance means.

Do you know what I've been making is a cherry tomato tart tatter.

oh yes you said you were going to make that so it went well yeah so good I'm really into balsamic at the moment that's not a recommendation because everyone likes it but you know when you like not forget about an ingredient but you kind of like bring it back to front of mind I've just been using on salads whereas now I'm like oh I'm really cooking with it front and center like roasted balsamic red onions like really kind of jammy and juicy and stuff

I've just missed that off.

I'm sorry, Julia.

The four burners theory.

Yes.

So thank you for flagging this one, Julia.

Julia said your recent conversation about how doing it all just isn't realistic made me think of the four burners theory.

I don't know if you're aware of this.