Ellen Zentner

The fish have been starving all winter and you get them before the runoff.

And so they're pretty excited about that.

And you don't get a lot of pressure.

You don't see a lot of other anglers out there.

And actually, some of the best fly fishing is going out for Mother's Day, which is actually just before the runoff, but won't make you very popular with mom.

Wow, Tom, you're really struggling with this this morning.

Well, look, we don't ever give away the rivers that we like to fish.

You don't do that.

Compliance won't let her.

But Montana is still a big favorite, a big favorite of ours.

I know.

Do you know, talking about Apple's 50th anniversary, there's a big anniversary for us, Tom.

It was 23 years ago that I was first on radio with you.

Very cool.

23 years ago.

You were three years old.

Exactly.

It was you and Ken Pruitt and I in the studio.

I tell you what, there's so much volatility and so much uncertainty out there that it has made the conversations...

all that much more interesting because they're much more longer-term focused.