Ellie Roscher

And in that moment, then my dad chose to believe his orthopedic surgeon friend over his daughter.

Yeah.

And that moment didn't feel new.

Think about in society how often we will believe men with credentials over the embodied experience of women.

Think about what a huge problem it is that women's pain isn't taken seriously.

Think about what a huge problem it is that our society seems just to have given up on the fact that violence happens against women all of the time and that's just the water we're supposed to swim in.

So that moment didn't feel new, but because it was my dad and it was so stark, it really broke my heart.

All I was asking him is to believe that I was in pain and that I knew that there was something wrong.

And he let his embarrassment for his friend kind of trump that.

Right.

So all of this came up for me in interviewing athletes.

A lot of my sports stories came up.

For example, I went from the gymnastics season to the softball season.

There's so many interesting things happening culturally in terms of gender in those two teams.

Right.

So, so, so many stories.

Right.

The thing that came up for me was listening to this beautiful, long-form journalism podcast.

Michigan Public Radio put it out.

It was called Believed.