Ellie Roscher

And it does a deep dive into Larry Nassar.

As a gymnast and a gymnastics coach, I knew I needed to listen to it.

And it's really, really beautiful journalism.

For those who don't know, can you give just a brief?

So Larry Nassar worked his way up.

He was in the Michigan sports world as a doctor, as a trainer, and then also worked with Team USA and was eventually convicted of sexually assaulting hundreds of girls with something that he called a procedure.

But the girls knew that it wasn't right.

Right.

Right.

In this podcast, they were asking the female detective, Mumford, like, what was it about you?

So many people interviewed him.

Like, what was different about you that you got the confession?

She very simply said, I walked into that interview leaving the girls.

That every time I see that, I get so emotional.

It's so simple.

That she went in knowing the girls were telling the truth.

And instead of buying his white lab coat doctor, you know, slideshow bullshit about his procedure, that didn't throw her because she was leading with the girls telling the truth.

You know, now you see with the Epstein files, right?

Like if we just believed when women told us what happened to them.

Yeah, we don't.