Ellie Roscher

And it has become so normal that we don't that it feels like we're screaming into the wind.

Right.

This comes full circle with fair game because one of the things people want to talk about with trans athletes is, is it safe?

And I get really fired up because I go back to Mark and my trans students who were not people doing harm.

They were kids who were vulnerable and needed advocacy, right?

There are zero instances of a trans athlete causing harm to a cis athlete.

Zero.

But we are just...

Hellbent on holding on to the story instead of believing the trans athletes when they tell us who they are.

That's all they're asking.

And it ties to Larry Nassar because if we are going to place our attention in policing trans athletes as if they're the problem, that's all energy that could be going toward us.

Making a sporting world that actually is safer and being extremely clear on who is doing the harm.

It's not trans athletes.

It's Larry Nassar.

Right.

And for years and years and years, we didn't believe it.

Yeah.

Until we did.

So the sporting world has a really long way to go, you know, and I think the GOP policymakers around these bans are saying we're doing this to protect girls and women.

They don't have a track record of policies that protect girls and women.