Elliott Williams

They would know.

They know.

They know.

Exactly.

Exactly.

Exactly, exactly.

So wait, so Al Sharpton, who's a central figure in the book.

Wait a second, the National Rifle Association, which is a sporting and hunting organization, now is centrally focused on Second Amendment advocacy.

Wait a second, what?

Wait, Donald Trump is president?

That guy who's the real estate, you know, so all of these things.

I mean, what's interesting about where I go in the book, Five Bullets.

Well, it's not even, I mean, he was certainly a success and a successful businessman and model to many people.

He was sort of a playboy and just man about town.

I just, when we think about, just look at who the presidents were up until that point, all America knew could be president was Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter, Dwight D. Eisenhower.

Yeah.

these are not colorful figures even under the best of circumstances so the idea of the celebrity president was a new concept right um and i just think something people weren't quite ready for um or would not be quite ready for um

how many of the national figures that come out of New York City politics are and were of New York City?

Just think about young, at that time, 84, young Chuck Schumer.

He's six years into being in the House of Representatives.