Ellis Rovin

So like Nissan makes, you know, cheap, reliable cars, great.

But they want to make luxury cars.

You can't have an expensive Nissan.

Infinity, boom.

Now you can sell the same stuff or sell more expensive stuff under the same company name, but a different name to actually get that across.

Right.

Everyone knows Spotify is music, but they've been trying desperately to add to that, whether it's podcasts, whether it's the DJ, the AI stuff.

Now this Peloton class and yoga class, I want it to be not the Spotify name to actually have a chance.

I mean, Netflix added games and then they added podcasts.

You know, and Spotify added they added audio books and they added podcasts because remember, Spotify originally didn't even have podcasts.

Right.

And then they became like the de facto podcast app for a lot of people.

And I think they believe that that's because of the Spotify name.

People open the Spotify app.

They already like Spotify.

They use it already.

And so we're going to leverage the Spotify name to also be good at and popular at these other things.

I mean, at the end of the day, it's like they I mean, they need to add more value in some way.

But all of these streaming companies, whether it's Netflix, whether it's YouTube, whether it's Spotify, are just trying to build out full ecosystems where you can do basically everything in it.

Because, you know, there's this what is the saying?