Ellis

And so it became this whole kind of argument about what is attribution versus what is just stealing and using someone's likeness.

And the CEO really just defends the idea that's attribution.

He talks about, oh, there's a link that you can go to.

And it clearly says that, oh, this is inspired by this person.

But like it had the checkmark.

Yeah.

Yeah, there is a class action lawsuit going on, which is, I think, why the CEO couldn't really say a lot because then it could be used against him in court.

And it's insane to me that he would even do the interview when he knows Nilay is very combative about these kind of things.

Yeah, he made himself look worse.

We definitely recommend that you go listen to this or watch it.

It's both on their podcast feed.

Watch it.

Yeah.

This really reminds me of when we had these conversations about these AI image generators and video generators, where if you would just put in like tech reviewer, like Marques would just show up.

You know, it reminds me of the whole like, who's in this training data?

How are they stealing it?

It was a long time ago.

Oh, okay.

It was Sora.

Well, there was Sora, but there was also Gemini.