Emily Bazelon

But I think the Supreme Court is trying to set the table for that kind of shift.

Exactly.

And, you know, Congress is often kind of missing in action and it's the first branch.

It's supposed to be playing much more of a role.

So anything that kind of reminds us that the fact that Congress has receded is not the design, I think is useful.

I mean, for a future Congress that is actually willing to take on the president, I think that is like a hugely important task.

There are a laundry list of changes Congress could make to try to restore more of its authority and just check abuses of executive power.

The idea that this Congress right now, really, we're talking about the Republicans who control this Congress are going to fundamentally change how they interact with President Trump.

I mean, I don't know.

I'm curious what both of you think.

But it seems like there's this problem of misaligned incentives where they still think there's a greater danger from Trump coming after them, potentially facing impeachment.

Trump approved primary challenges and that it's unlikely that this dynamic is going to really shift until after the midterms.

Right.

But then they have to say, hey, wait a second.

We're against President Trump's favorite tool and biggest part of his agenda.

And that is a harder sentence for them to utter.

Right.

Yeah, totally.

And he's also unpopular.

So if the normal rules of politics applied, then I would be more concerned.