Emily Fang

Okay, so arguing to learn helps us keep an open mind about the topic at hand. But you mentioned earlier, Rachel, how we're often making judgments about other people, not just their opinions. So how do you navigate those feelings that can kind of obscure your ability to fully listen to someone?

Okay, so arguing to learn helps us keep an open mind about the topic at hand. But you mentioned earlier, Rachel, how we're often making judgments about other people, not just their opinions. So how do you navigate those feelings that can kind of obscure your ability to fully listen to someone?

I think this is why things devolve on social media so much, because people are not asking questions of each other. They're just like leaving these pronouncements in the comments, you know?

I think this is why things devolve on social media so much, because people are not asking questions of each other. They're just like leaving these pronouncements in the comments, you know?

I think this is why things devolve on social media so much, because people are not asking questions of each other. They're just like leaving these pronouncements in the comments, you know?

Yeah, humility seems like an important way forward.

Yeah, humility seems like an important way forward.

Yeah, humility seems like an important way forward.

Rachel Carlson, thank you for giving us a toolkit for moving forward in these divisive times. Of course. Thanks for having me, Emily.

Rachel Carlson, thank you for giving us a toolkit for moving forward in these divisive times. Of course. Thanks for having me, Emily.

Rachel Carlson, thank you for giving us a toolkit for moving forward in these divisive times. Of course. Thanks for having me, Emily.

Well, they're essentially being sentenced today for subversion for trying to win an election. They wanted to pick the most popular candidates, and so they held this poll that you just mentioned, and 600,000-plus people took part. That poll was supposed to pick the most competitive candidates, and it was a watershed moment.

Well, they're essentially being sentenced today for subversion for trying to win an election. They wanted to pick the most popular candidates, and so they held this poll that you just mentioned, and 600,000-plus people took part. That poll was supposed to pick the most competitive candidates, and it was a watershed moment.

Well, they're essentially being sentenced today for subversion for trying to win an election. They wanted to pick the most popular candidates, and so they held this poll that you just mentioned, and 600,000-plus people took part. That poll was supposed to pick the most competitive candidates, and it was a watershed moment.

It was a moment when this pro-democracy coalition really felt like they had a chance of actually winning a legislative seat in Hong Kong, and they were well-organized, and they enjoyed popular backing. But that's what is being called subversion now under Beijing's national security law because this coalition could actually have won a legislative seat. Ultimately, we know what happened.

It was a moment when this pro-democracy coalition really felt like they had a chance of actually winning a legislative seat in Hong Kong, and they were well-organized, and they enjoyed popular backing. But that's what is being called subversion now under Beijing's national security law because this coalition could actually have won a legislative seat. Ultimately, we know what happened.

It was a moment when this pro-democracy coalition really felt like they had a chance of actually winning a legislative seat in Hong Kong, and they were well-organized, and they enjoyed popular backing. But that's what is being called subversion now under Beijing's national security law because this coalition could actually have won a legislative seat. Ultimately, we know what happened.

Half a year later, nearly everyone who helped organize that poll or was a candidate in that poll has been arrested.

Half a year later, nearly everyone who helped organize that poll or was a candidate in that poll has been arrested.

Half a year later, nearly everyone who helped organize that poll or was a candidate in that poll has been arrested.