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Emily Kwong

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

It's a very good question.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

Yes, there is a way to make SAF out of thin air.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

Yeah.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

The way you do this is you combine captured carbon dioxide, say from direct air capture,

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

with hydrogen atoms found in water.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

And those liquid hydrocarbons can be converted into SAF.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

However, this synthetic process is even more expensive than the bio-based processes, so it's just not practical right now to scale.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

Yeah.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

Yeah, yeah.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

And I suppose that is where a new $20 million venture in Washington state is trying to break through.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

The goal of the Cascadia accelerator in your home state of Washington is to make SAF for the Pacific Northwest.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

Alaska Airlines is a partner.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

Washington State University is a partner.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

They want to create a reference library, basically that portfolio Joshua was talking about of all the different ways that SAF can be made in the future.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

Joshua is the technical lead for this project and a self-described fuel nerd.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

His lab has already received SAF samples from 40 different institutions.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

Yeah, also true.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

I mean, exciting as this venture is, it has a lot to prove.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

A recent Reuters investigation found that of the 165 SAF projects that have been announced by airlines over the last few years, only 10 reported producing commercial volumes of SAF.

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Is sewage the future of green aviation?

Wow.