Emily Maitlis

it's done enough to kind of put him off.

But maybe the opposite is true.

Maybe he thinks he needs to clock up a win because everyone is telling him, like, frankly, spelling out to his face that he's a complete loser now.

You'll have seen we're talking a lot about defence spending here at the moment.

We lost the Defence Secretary John Healey last week.

He left with a very strong message to the Prime Minister that he wasn't spending enough on defence to keep the country safe.

How do you view what's going on here?

I mean, look, there are very specific criticisms that came from John Healy, which were that Keir Starmer had made a pledge at Munich.

He'd made a pledge in the Commons.

And then the timeframe for that spending on defence was getting pushed further and further.

And it wasn't actually mooted to come until 2034.

So, I mean, very specifically, you're not interfering in our politics because we are NATO.

We are all NATO.

So what we spend directly affects how Poland feels as well.

We've got four years.

It sounds like we actually owe a lot to Ukraine.

When there is all this discussion about EU access, accession, what do you think?

But should it be expedited?

I mean, should they leapfrog, for example, Albania or Moldova or...

How long would you like to see this?