Emily O'Reilly

And then the big one came along.

The big one being Kaposi's sarcoma.

Now, for people of my age, we well remember Kaposi's sarcoma because it was the iconic illness of the AIDS era.

It's a form of kind of skin cancer.

Anybody who watched Philadelphia, the movie with Tom Hanks might recall his character.

He was a lawyer and he was doing very well in his corporate company.

And one day one of the partners spots this lesion, this spot on his face and he is sacked because they know he's gay, they know blah, blah, blah and so on and so forth.

So I always remember that.

And my daughter was trying to refresh my cultural references.

And she talked about the drama documentary series, It's a Sin, which was about the AIDS epidemic in the UK in the 90s.

And I think Kaposi's sarcoma.

So Kaposi's sarcoma marked you, branded you as somebody with AIDS.

And it was incredibly...

Unusual.

Well, it was beyond unusual that Brian would get it because the metrics of his HIV, if you like, of his immune system were perfect.

You know, he was very good.

He had a super HIV consultant.

And when his doctor wanted him to go and have this lesion on his knee and on his ankle biopsied, his consultant was amazed.

No, surely not.

You know, your HIV metrics are fantastic, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.