Emily Simpson

After Saskia, Mike was offered the last word.

This would have been the moment to take accountability or to apologize.

He chose to say nothing.

At last, it came time for Judge Jill Cummins to deliver Mike's sentence.

Knew what you were accused of.

I'm very familiar with the facts of the case.

If I could press a button and rewind it all, I would.

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Judge Jill Cummins had been prepared for a full criminal trial.

She'd presided over the case for months, hearing all kinds of motions and pretrial arguments.

At this point, she knew the case well.