Emma Grede

Will you just talk to me a little bit more about what that time looked like?

Because I'm assuming when it's your name on the door, you just assume the identity as the CEO.

But 14 years in, you could afford it to bring somebody else in.

Yeah.

I mean, just for anybody who doesn't know and who doesn't come from fashion, Pierre-Yves is your partner, but also one of the most sought after and influential fashion executives on the planet.

And one of the most competent and brilliant people came from LVMH.

And so like the dream of all dream CEOs for any brand, I would say.

Right.

He's a creative businessman.

And he understands creative people.

But, you know, for 14 years, you really did do it.

And I'm interested in those four years when you brought somebody else in.

Was that because you felt like you no longer wanted the role or you felt like you weren't living up to it?

No, I think everybody needs to know that.

What was the first big creative decision you made after stepping down as the CEO?

How did your identity as a founder change after stepping back out of the CEO role?

I mean, it didn't change.

Well, it's impossible to do creative and run the business.

I think it's completely impossible.

I also think that you don't have to be the CEO to be the one calling the shots.