Erhan Giral

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389 appearances 1 recordings 1 series first heard Aug 2026 last heard 3 Aug

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So we always started from foundation models, but we have a pretty advanced workflow now, I would say, that allows us to try out new ones all the time.
So I have a radar that we constantly try different new foundation models from different vendors, benchmark them, train them.
And to evaluate them.
These days, we are really fond of the Quinn family from Alibaba.
They do great, great frontier work.
And also Gamma 4 from Google.
So we have two editions of the same model.
So we have a Coin-based model and then a Google-based one.
And we offer them both.
And the foundation models, the way we are architected is swappable.
So as these things develop and advance, we are not really married to them very, very tightly.
So we can easily swap them out, in and out.
So it's interesting, Craig, that it's a very empirical space.
So you can't just look at the architecture.
You can't read the paper and say, oh, that's a better model.
You really, at the end of the day, you have to sit down and test these, try these.
There's all kinds of reward hacking models do when you're trying to test.
I mean, sometimes they detect that they're, oh, it looks like I'm being tested right now.
So it takes a different rigor to formulate an opinion about a foundational model.
But we are all learning that.
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