Eric Newcomer

Here we are.

This is a big moment for me.

I'm glad.

Literally, I'm having Ben Smith record on my podcast tomorrow, so it couldn't have been a better tee-up.

You can get to the bottom of it.

I haven't even dug into this, so it's like you're giving me notes.

You've got to ask him the hard questions.

I really, we were saying when the show kicked off.

Generational run with, and I, when I listen to your show, I'm like taking notes.

It's like you actually have a really, I was calling you like a matador.

Oh yeah.

You're with like.

You're with, like, a bull, and you're trying to get them to, like, kind of run at you, but then they run at you, and you sidestep them.

It's really good.

It's very confusing sometimes.

I'm someone who came up through journalism.

You know, I was working the last guy in through the normal, like I was in my hometown paper, the Macon Telegraph, Sun Sentinel, Tampa Bay Times, New York Times, just like interning my way up, just doing the journalism thing.

Thank God Jessica Lesson brought me to work for the information.

I was the first employee.

So it was like, oh, no way.