Eric Newcomer

We did 90% of the hard work.

Then we have Carter from M13, jump it on.

We have Dr. Swami from AWS joining, and then the Germinator, of course, and a number of other founders.

This one.

It's really tough because if a startup shipped these, everyone, they would be able to raise capital.

There you go.

If a startup launched this product and was able to do the demos that they can do, we've tried this product, we've done a number of the demos, that startup would...

be able to raise at, I would say, easily a billion, just based on current market conditions.

But a startup is evaluated a lot differently, of course, than a public company that has spent somewhere in the range of $3.5 billion building this product.

Yeah, the feedback from the market has not been great.

And Tyler in the chat says, snap down 92% since peak Zerp.

So you can imagine a lot of the work that was done on these was done when they were a much, much, much bigger company.

I think it can steel man itself, John.

Hit it.

We will see how... Other scenario, he's getting some cauliflower ear.

He's training.

He sees Zack has gotten into MMA.

He doesn't want to be left behind.

So we don't know.

Tyler says it is the arm of the sunglasses.