Eric Topol

And that's the fix we're in.

Well, it sounds too much like the tobacco story and so many other things that were, you know, missed opportunities to promote public health.

Now, is Canada doing any better than us on this stuff?

In some ways, but not in others.

Yeah, well, it doesn't look very encouraging at the moment, but hopefully someday we'll get there.

Bruce, this has been a really fascinating discussion.

I think we all should be thankful to you for dedicating your career

to a topic that a lot of us are not up on.

And you hopefully are getting us all into a state of awareness.

And congratulations on that review, which was masterful.

And keep up the great work.

Thank you.

Hello, this is Eric Topol from Ground Truths, and I'm delighted to welcome Owen Tripp, who is a CEO of Included Health.

And Owen, I'd like to start off, if you would, with the story from 2016, because really what I'm interested in is patients and how to get the right doctor.

So can you tell us about when you lost your hearing and

your right ear back, what, nine years ago or so?

Yeah, so from what I gather, you saw an ENT physician, but that ENT physician was not really well-versed in this condition, which is, I guess, a bit surprising.

And then eventually you got to the right ENT physician in San Francisco, is that right?

Yeah.

So I read that your Stanford brain scan suggested it was about size of a plum and that you then got the call that you.