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Eric Topol

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Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

But if you can do it, the question here is, you know, right today we talk about, oh, let's make an organoid.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

so we can figure out how to treat this person's cancer or understand this person's rare disease or whatever.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

And instead of having to wait weeks for this culture and all the expense and whatnot, you could just do it in a computer and silica.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

And you have this virtual twin of a person's, you know, cells and their tissue and whatnot.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

So the opportunity here is, I don't know if people, you know, get this, is just extraordinary and quick and cheap, you know, if you can get there.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

I guess it's such a bold initiative idea.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

Who will pay for this, do you think?

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

You know, I think it has the looks of like the Human Genome Project, which at the time, as you know, when it was originally launched, people thought, oh, this is impossible.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

And look what happened.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

It got done.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

And now, you know, the sequence of genome is just a, you know, commodity, very relatively very inexpensive compared to what it used to be.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

Yeah, I think another thing that, of course, is happening concurrently to add the, I think, likelihood that you'll be successful is we've never seen the foundation models coming out in life science as they have in recent weeks, months, never.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

I mean, I have a paper in science this tomorrow coming out of summarizing the progress about not just RNA, DNA,

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

I mean, the whole idea, AlphaFold3, but now, Boltz and so many others, it's just amazing how fast the torrent of new foundation models.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

So, Cheryl, what do you think accounts for this?

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

This is unprecedented in life science to see foundation models coming out of this clip on evolution, on, I mean, you name it, design of every different

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

molecule of life or, of course, in cells included in that.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

What do you think is going on here?

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

Yeah, I mean, it's pretty, and we're not even talking about just sequence because we've also got imaging, which has gone to a revolution, be able to image subcellular without having to use any types of stains or things that would disrupt cells.

Ground Truths
Steve Quake and Charlotte Bunne: The Holy Grail of Biology

That's another part of kind of the deep learning era that came along.