Eric Topol

Yeah.

Now we're going to go into, you know, how did Francis Crick get to this two careers, if you will, or to starting two fields in science.

in many respects.

But before we get to that, some background.

I guess he was influenced by two scientists and their work, Linus Pauling and Edwin Schrodinger, and also by his child's children's encyclopedia.

Tell us a little bit about that.

Yeah, no, it's amazing, because that was his first major pivot from the viscosity of hot water to go into biology and chemistry rather than physics to start to build up molecular biology.

So a lot of people, and this has been a very controversial thing about the discovery in February 1953 of the DNA structure and the other players, Rosalind Franklin,

Maurice Wilkins, and you set the record straight.

You really went into this.

I tried to.

Yeah, yeah.

Well, I mean, I've always wondered what the hell happened there.

You know, what really happened?

What was the contribution of these different people?

And everybody thinks that Watson and Crick, they worked together for decades when it was like weeks.

Yeah, absolutely.

You can fill in the holes there.

Yeah, I mean, a lot of people are going to still believe that.

Well, you know, I think the story is, you know, you got into the, as you say, into the weeds.