Eric Topol

Over the course of the pandemic,

maybe 25 different academic institutions came up with ways to develop a universal vaccine.

That is coming up with whether it's cryptic antigens or various strategies, even with fostering T-cell immunity, whatever.

And these have not gone forward in any significant way, no less

The nasal vaccines, of which there have been many, again, by academic labs like Washington University that sold the license out to India and many others too, Emory, Yale.

So we have the brainpower to come up with much better vaccines.

But unlike what you did in COVAX or Operation Warp Feed, finding the funding when there was none and developing this, is there any chance that all this great science that's been published on from great labs all throughout, actually throughout the world, that we're actually going to act on this?

Oh, but we can drink raw milk, right?

Yeah.

I couldn't agree more.

I mean, just to touch on that mucosal nasal vaccine or oral vaccine, this is so promising, all the data that we have.

And yet, this was dropped by the current administration, the money that was coming through BARDA and other sources that was put together to support both nasal and universal vaccines.

So we just abandon it.

Whereas we need to block infections.

And that's, of course, the biggest.

All these people that are anti-vaccine because it says COVID vaccine because, oh, it doesn't block infections.

Well, yeah, it did really well until we had these variants pop out.

And we could also get back to it doing really well if we were vaccinated.

invest and take the nasal vaccine story forward.

No, I couldn't agree with you more about that.