Eric Topol

And I hope everybody who has any interest in life science gets a chance to read it because they're going to learn a lot about historic discoveries, not just in the life science of DNA and life itself, but also, you know, in our brain, in our mind, in the neuroscience world.

Yeah.

Thank you.

I've really enjoyed it.

And we're going to look forward to your next book on heredity in March.

So let me introduce the person who I have just a real pleasure, privilege to interview today.

I have a conversation with Dr. Jen Gunter.

She is a gynecologist, OB-GYN in Kaiser, Northern California.

And she's been in the US for a few decades.

She has two New York Times bestselling books.

That's a big accomplishment on top of her career.

She has a blog.

Vagenda, which is phenomenal on Substance.

And she's out there as one of the great truth tellers in medicine, in particular, and this topic.

She's been my go-to source for years.

So welcome, Jen.

Oh, this is really a delight.

And so I thought we'd start because just two weeks ago was a big day in the world of MHT.

Uh, and this was when there was a wall street journal editorial by Marty McCary, the FDA commissioner, and also simultaneously a JAMA paper, um,

And so I just was gonna start by reading, obviously it was a big deal to have the black box from 2003 taken away, but there were a couple of statements I wanted to get your reaction to.