Eric Topol

And you show this figure.

Tell us about that experience.

Well, you know, you show so many great examples and you really hit hard on this scene.

You have to see, you have to

acknowledge the future, the invisibility feature.

Like for example, you go back to 1925 with putting lead in gasoline with Alice Hamilton.

and how we went 50 years, 50 years before, not only were children having, you know, mental development issues, adults with heart disease.

I did discuss this with Bruce Lamphere in a prior.

I read, I listened to that.

Kidney stroke, all this stuff.

And it took all that time for the Cassandra curse to be broken.

It's amazing.

And of course, you take us through the TB in New York City, the

TB resistant in the early 1990s.

So many great examples.

And as you said, it's not just randomized trials and modeling, natural experiments.

I mean, still so many people won't get a shingles vaccine.

And we see the data consistent, three big natural experiments.

And

Wales, the U.S., and Australia, that shows like 20-some percent reduction of Alzheimer's and dementia, which would be a phenomenal drug, but they don't see the benefit.