Eric Topol

And I'm a little guy compared to the other people that have reviewed the book.

I wrote, if it was one person to turn...

For future pandemic readiness, it would be Michael Oster, one of the world's leading epidemiologists.

In The Big One, a landmark book, he, along with Mark Olshaker, provide a remarkably clear-eyed, science-driven, and comprehensive preventive approach.

So, Michael, welcome.

Well, no, it's much more for me because this book is really the timing of it and the balance in it and the insight and wisdom from a person who's been doing it, what, for a decade and is the highest, as far as I know, the highest regarded person.

American epidemiologists.

That's all I can say.

You're really kind, Michael.

And

You've been such a great support, and I've learned so much from you.

And one of the things I learned from you, and it's throughout the book, is the importance of humility.

Not only are you my favorite person for coming up with metaphors, you come up with country bumpkin metaphors, but you're really good at...

having humility, saying, we don't know.

I don't know.

We don't know.

So let's get into something we don't know about, which is the last chapter of the book.

We're going in reverse here.

But the last chapter of the book is the big one.

It's SARS-3.