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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And it's getting condemned, like you said.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

Yeah.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

Now, before I go to what the lapses are at the moment with a thing called HHS, I do want to ask you, you know, right now, of course, we have a summer wave.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

COVID will be with us for many, many years ahead.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And in fact, many suggest that we may see another Omicron-like event just with this virus.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

Because we have infinite number of mutation combinations and who knows what could happen.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

But we have a lot of deaths now.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

We've got hundreds of deaths.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

We have more people getting long COVID.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

We have vaccines that are being taken away from people.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

unless they're fit with a 65 and older.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And even that is going to be hard to get in many states.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

We have a mess right now.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

We have a summer wave that, you know, we don't know exactly where that's going to, it probably won't be as bad as prior ones, but it's this XFG variant and all the other things that happened with, you know, with going back to school and whatnot.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

What is your read on the current situation where we're being made aware

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

defenseless with the waning immunity and everything else.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

This is scary.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

Michael, I don't get it because here you have there's no one, no pandemic prepared in this office anymore.

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

And is this denialism?

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Mike Osterholm & Eric Topol - Discuss “The Big One” book

Is it just pure stupidity?