Eric Topol

Are you optimistic that we can address this?

For example, I know there was some work in the UK, which was specifically intended for

for example, a mental health app that was for people in greater need rather than just putting out there for everyone.

What do you think about?

Yeah, no question.

Well, interesting approach there.

Now, you mentioned Finland, and that was one of the things I also wanted to highlight with you, with the book, that this is a place where prevention is really a big thing.

And all the things that we've been talking about are trying to prevent major diseases, promote health.

What do you think about Finland?

Is that the right model?

Yeah, no, that's great.

I know we can't get to everything in the book because it's rich, but when you get to how not to die too soon, what's something, anything big that we haven't touched on in our discussion, Debbie?

Yeah.

I'm still watching it because the chapter on guns and the fact that it had the insanity here in the United States, and then also the chapter on accidents and zero vision.

that you really told us the whole story in Sweden.

I mean, that's why this book is so extraordinary, because you come up with these things.

I learned so much from it.

But of course, the gun thing has me so depressed because we've done nothing.

And the story you told in the book, and also that we've seen in Australia and many other parts of the world,

that if you do the restriction, you get rid of these lethal military-type weapons, assault rifles and whatnot, you see a tremendous change in the pattern of not just mass shootings, but all sorts of other gun disasters.