Eric Topol

And also, last thing, I share your optimism.

We are going to get through this here eventually.

And, you know, not to get too carried away in the moment, because eventually we'll get into a better state, I'm sure.

I'm hoping for a reactive hyperemia where all the deficits that we're experiencing right now will be recovered over time.

Anything else for you?

Thank you.

And the funny part is we had no idea that we would have these two books that were very different, very complementary.

come out almost at the same time.

Really wild.

I'll look forward to future conversations with you and even getting to meet you in person someday.

Thanks so much.

Sounds good.

Hello, it's Eric Topol with Ground Truce, and I am really delighted to welcome Matt Walker, who I believe has had more impact on sleep health than anyone I know.

That's reflected by the fact that he is a professor at UC Berkeley.

heads up the center, that he originated for human sleep science.

He wrote a remarkable book back in 2017, Why We Sleep, and also we'll link to that as well as the TED Talk of 2019, Sleep is Your Superpower, with 24 million views.

That's a lot of views here.

It's frightening, isn't it?

Wow.

Wow.