Eric Weinstein

And I wish that we were oriented differently.

Well, I think that there was.

I think that we may have blown that.

I think there was a period of time when Russia, and if we're just going to be honest, because we both know both cultures, there was a desire to say, don't you see us as you?

know the concept that somebody's really made it if they've made it in the west the russians were in in some ways in my opinion like many other civilizations partially poo-pooing and partially desirous of being seen and i believe that in part uh it was up to nato and the west

to not treat this as we won, you lost, ha ha, but instead to be gracious in victory and say, this was not a defeat of Russia, this was a defeat of communism, which had settled over Russia.

Well, it's Putin's all the way down.

There's also this yearning for the strongman to stop chaos.

What is the great quote?

The great quote?

Something like, better 30 years of tyranny than a single night of anarchy.

You as a Briton, you as a Russian, who's talking here?

That's what I'm telling you.

I understand that.

But do you reserve that for yourself?

I'm sorry?

You're talking about a guy from Russia talking to a guy whose family came from Umay.

It's a little rich that we're having this conversation in Los Angeles.

It's not really... I don't think so at all.

Tell me more.