Eric Wolff

We were in beta for about a year before that.

Well, actually, where I was thinking is that I ran and still also run a digital marketing agency and our clients very much wanted to be able to do more in the realm of automation.

They didn't have $1,000 a month to spend on software.

And so we started building tools essentially for our customers.

We addressed what they were saying, hey, this is what we want.

And we wanted to all work in WordPress because we're doing everything in WordPress.

And so really that was the genesis of the software.

Um, you know, it's, it's a, um, it's a different way of helping people.

And so we, we really, um, and there were, there was a time that I really thought about going all in on the software, but as I headed in that direction, I realized that, you know, I, I missed the ability to, to work really closely with the clients and, and it was also taking away

one of the key ways that we learn, which is by actually solving problems.

And so we decided to keep, you know, to sort of keep going down both paths and have the one side where we help folks and the other side where we make our tools available for anyone who wants to use them.

And very often it ends up being other agencies.

We have actually at this point several hundred folks using the platform, and we expect that to grow by leaps and bounds based on the things that we're going to be rolling out in the next month.

Uh, we're doing less than that in revenue because of things like agency partners and folks like that, that are paying different rates.

Uh, we do, uh, uh,

probably about half that at this point in monthly revenue.

So we have, yeah, so we have, we have agency partners who are implementing this for their clients.

We have, um, we have folks who, um, we actually still have some folks who are using, um, a freemium version of the software that we rolled out about four years ago, which, um,

which is now defunct, but there are still folks that have been using it.

And so we've got probably about 500 active users.