Eric Zimmer

That was a lot of running all over the place, but hopefully there was something in there for people that was useful.

Thank you so much.

Yeah, there are so many exercises at the end of the book.

Normally you put them end of chapter exercises.

They're there and I'm like, nobody does those.

I'm just going to put them in the back so you can read it as a book and then dive into the exercises you want.

But there is a lot in there because I think like you, I'm a big believer that knowledge is great, but it's the application of the knowledge.

It's the living of it that makes it actually matter.

i am still waiting for the day that ratio starts to close yeah i don't think it will in general i think there is something to i've thought about this a lot because i've been like well if you're not applying the ideas in my podcast why what's the value

And I do believe that we would all do well, and I'm the same way, to continue to shift the ratio of consumption to application or creation, or even deep reflection, like from where we are to more of that.

Because if I listen to a podcast and I spend five minutes after just writing down what was the one thing for me

That mattered most.

And then spend another five minutes coming up with that and then just writing it down a little bit.

Well, how does that apply in my life?

Even that makes a big difference.

But there's also something I think that people get out of shows like yours and like mine that is also really valuable, which is they feel encouraged.

They feel often in my show, they feel comforted.

They feel seen.

They feel heard.

And they have hope.