Eric Zimmer

I mean, addiction was an accumulation for sure.

You know, like anybody else starts out like I want to hang out with my friends and get high and

increment upon increment upon increment that built until it was, you know, quite an edifice.

Once those moments accumulate, they're really hard to undo, right?

As you went through.

Really hard to undo.

And there's the other thing that speaks to addiction.

And also what you were talking about is that these things amplify each other.

So the downward addiction spiral is at a certain juncture, you start to feel bad about yourself for what you're doing.

So you feel bad about yourself for what you're doing.

So you feel terrible.

And the only way you know how to deal with feeling terrible is to get high, which then makes you feel worse about yourself for doing it.

And it's the downward spiral.

And I think that in the decisions that you're talking about, too, I do believe that you're right, that if people can pause and think they've got a better chance.

But how often do we see people double down and double down, you know?

They get out of that work meeting and instead of being like, oh, I made the mistake here.

It's like Bob was out of line, right?

And they double down on Bob being out of line.

And the more they do that, the more they have to do it, right?

It amplifies it.