Erin Allman‑Updyke

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This Podcast Will Kill You · Ep 221 Electroconvulsive Therapy Part 2: A current conversation · 8 Sep 2026 podcast

In some cases, ECT has been used effectively to treat catatonia in those cases as well.

So kind of just like really bolsters the use of ECT in all forms of catatonia, which is really interesting.

If it's an emergency

Okay.

So something like a a catatonia or or a neuroleptic malignant syndrome.

I mean, and honestly, even then you're gonna start with other therapies first, but if they're not improving, if someone has really severe treatment resistant depression and they come in and they've had a lot of weight loss, they're not eating, um, they're really severely suicidal or something like that, then it might be but it's it's kind of hard to say that that's really first line, right?

Because those often those individuals

Those individuals.

Individuals.

They've already gone through so much to get to that point.

In two thousand one, the American Psychiatric Association, I'm gonna get that that acronym wrong, but they basically came out and they were like, ECT should not be last line therapy.

ECT should not be the thing that we think of when everything else has tried and failed so many times.

And yet still that's what it often is, which is unfortunate.

Yeah.

It's it is an interesting

For all of the cases that we're going to use ECT, I think that the informed consent process is a really interesting and incredibly important part of that process.

Because even if someone is not so severe that they have catatonia where they're not responding at all, but even if they have really severe depression, their sickness, their illness is causing them to not care in many cases about

Getting better, right?

Yeah.

And not always, that's not, it's a generalization, but that like that is part of the nature of so many of these disorders.

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